[scott w] wrote:
Okay.. Illustrator is NOT Photoshop. Photoshop uses pixels. Please explain how a history panel would function with vector objects (NOT PIXELS). Keep in mind non-linear editing of vector objects. Check how Photoshop handles non-linear history with vector shapes.... see any problems?
My points were NOT trying to find reasons a history panel would fail. But an exploration as to what value it would have if it only listed undo states due to the limitations which already exist with vector objects. If you can explain what features would be useful and how they would operate EXACTLY based on vector objects, I'm all ears. So far, no one has posted anything but "It would work like Photoshop." But even Photoshop's History Panel has little use with Vector shapes. Seems this is a simple pie-in-the-sky request by many without any real thought to functionality. From what I've read here, many want a History Panel in Illustrator to function similar to how History works in Photoshop... but no one is exploring it enough to understand that basically, you'd get all the limitations of Photoshop's History panel with almost zero benefit.
So what you are saying then is that you haven't read any posts but your own? Not one person in this thread has asked for non-linear history in Illustrator. Not one. In fact YOU are the only person who keeps bringing it up. The original poster along with myself and many others have simply asked for a History Panel, NOT non-linear history. Two very different things.
We have all listed many reasons why this is benefitial in different ways and for various workflows. Perhaps you need to read through the thread again since you believe that no one has offered any possible reasons why this could be useful. Please keep in mind that just because you don't see the value in this feature personally for your own workflow, does not mean that there is no value for others.
As I've stated several times before in this thread, and as you have conveniently chosen to ignore, I will reiterate again that the entire Adobe Suite of products each have a History Panel (except Illustrator); very few of which have non-linear history capabilities (only Photoshop that I am aware of has this additional capability). The rest of Creative Suite products which have History Panels are using it as a SIMPLE LIST OF UNDO STEPS. Gasp! What a waste of resources! Obviously this features was not considered a waste of resources nor a useless feature without non-linear capabilities by the development teams thus far. Given the fact that people keep looking for a history panel in Illustrator, it is obviously a feature that people would find useful as well.
The real question is since a history panel function has been written into every other piece of Adobe software, WHY was it omitted from only Illustrator, and WHY has it not been added since they could likely copy and paste a majority of the code with only some minor tweaks to get it to work. It truly wouldn't take very many resources to add this simple function.
Please don't respond with your nonsense of vector this and non-linear that. No one is asking for non-linear history, and the History Panel already exists in Flash which is...wait for it...vector based!!! If there is a technical limitation that prevents this feature from inclusion in Illustrator then the Adobe developers could likely explain what that is, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Stop being a turd Scott. It is simple request, for an easily added feature, that many people would find useful. Period. Why do you try so hard to argue against it?